Muslim booted off plane for asking to pray

A young Muslim was booted off a plane at a North airport after asking cabin crew if he could pray before his flight, we can reveal.

The incident happened when the country was on high alert last weekend after an alleged terrorist attack at Glasgow airport.

A source told us that the man - who has not been named - boarded a Thomsonfly flight at Newcastle International Airport bound for a holiday in Malaga, Spain, with friends.

He asked staff if he could go in the galley area - which can be curtained off from passengers - and offer prayers before the flight took off.

However - according to our source - the flight attendant asked the plane's captain who promptly ordered the man off the aircraft.

Sunday Sun

Northumbria Police officers were waiting for the man in the departure lounge and searched him under terrorism laws.

All they found was a bottle of water, used by Muslims to wash themselves before prayer, a compass to ensure he was facing the holy city of Mecca, and a traditional prayer-mat.

The flight - TOM 4125 from Newcastle to Malaga - took off an hour later than its scheduled 4.20pm departure time last Sunday.

A spokeswoman for Thomson said: "The captain has the right to remove passengers from a flight if he feels their behaviour is detrimental to other customers. For legal reasons, we are unable to comment any further."

A Northumbria Police spokeswoman said: "We were called to the airport just before 5.15pm on Sunday after concerns were raised about a passenger.

"We attended and searched the man and found that no offence had been committed and everything was in order. The man was not arrested."

Comments

[pete]

The muslim dude obviously did'nt pose a threat but I guess in view of 911, the pilot was (quite rightly) not going to take any chances.

[Thersites]

It suggests a certain lack of confidence in the pilot's skills, so he was probably professionally offended.

[Ameen]

They found a bottle of water?!
Those aren't allowed on planes anymore!
So perhaps they were right to do what they did afterall...

[Random Guy]

Oooooo, you have to watch for those muslims PRAYING before a flight. Never know what they might get up to from the cover of a prayer mat and compass. Superb observational skills by the pilot. Not a hint of ignorance at all. Nope. Not a smidgen. Veeeeeeery suspicious behaviour by the muslim man. Will keep in mind next time I am at an airport.

[David Duff]

A shrewd and sensible assessment, in my view. I cannot believe that Allah would not have listened to his prayers if he had remained seated and thought them in his head rather than frightening his fellow human beings on the 'plane. Selfish bugger!

[Infidel & Kafir Watch]

Islamophobia, is the correct term to be used here.

This in fact makes me laugh because its the first time this incident has gone by without being covered as a MASS TERROR SCARE on-board a plane by the Islamophobia media. WOW

If a Muslim say's BOO in a public place, the media drop on that location like a SWAT team covering it like a MASS TERROR SCARE as a Muslim man BOO's in public, we then have the government debating this in house of commons to pass new laws.

BBUUUWWAAAAHHHHHHHAAA HHHAAA

I can't stop laughing...

[Rob]

My wife and I once flew from San'a in Yemen to Cairo, with a refuelling stop in Jeddah. When we took off from there, the pilot led us in an Islamic prayer for travellers. Just shows how shifty these Egyptians are - praying before a flight.

[Sohaib]

To clarify (e.g. for David Duff):

The prayer in question is the formal prayer (Salah) which is performed at 5 set times during the day, which involves postures and actions as well as words on the tongue and presence of heart.

The other type of prayer (supplication) can be done at any time and without specific actions required.

[joe90]

There we go
David Duff is questioning our shared human values and our shared human way of life - what is it with these nihilistic western atheistic fundamnetalist Jihadis and their gospel of hate and violence?

The next thing you know,
not only will they NOT be satisfied with attacking our traditional and sacred ways of worshiping the Almighty, that are sanctified by practices that go back millenia -
- but they'll want us to stop going on pilgrimage to Saintiago de Compostella, Rome, Jerusalem and on the sacred Hajj to Mecca -
- and they'll also want us to get rid of our chapels, churches and synagogues along with bull-dozing our ancient cathedrals, especially the Vatican -
- after all, they've already destroyed the City of the Spires and Minarets, Falluja, as well as looting and raping the museums of Baghdad, which is one of the greatest acts of vandalism and uncivilised anti-human depravity ever, which not even Hitler could equal -
-as well as destroying the most hallowed sites of human antiquity anywhere on the planet, in the cradle of civilisation between the Euphrates and the Tigris, Ancient Mesopotamia

Is nobody's cultural heritage and ways of life safe from these anti-democratic, violent barbaric Bush-Blair-Murdoch fundamentalist extremists violent western g-dless nihilists?

ps
It is sad to report this -

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/highlands_and_islands/6284628.stm>Police 'approached' Iraqi doctors
BBC News Scotland
11 July 2007

Dr Ameir Al-Mukhtar is a consultant surgeon at Balfour Hospital in Orkney.
He said some of his Iraqi colleagues in the medical profession have been approached by Special Branch.

[Where eagles Dare]

Maybe its because when a Muslim starts praying in public he usually ends up ramming planes into the side of buildings. I think a Muslim free airline would be a real money maker. Its about time you woke up to the fact we dont trust you and we would be happier if you left OUR country. Lets face it how many of your forefathers fought for Britain in the last two world wars. I rest my case stop trying to hijack what is not yours take your barbaric religion and leave.
Have a look here
http://drakesdrumuk.blogspot.com/

Barbaric backward and alien to OUR nation. Please go

[Thersites]

Sohaib, just how far do you think religious freedom of the skies should go? Should neo-aztecs be allowed to practise human sacrifice to ensure a safe take-off and landing? Would a sacrificialo pyre in the galley be acceptable? Would aircraft be obliged to take off in a way that ensured people praying were facing Mecca?

What exactly does Dr Ameir Al-Mukhtar object to? Iraqi- and other- doctors appear to have tried to kill themselves and others recently. I'd be much more worried if the police weren't talking to other doctors who might know something about those doctors and other people who might be likely to try to do the same thing.

[Thersites]

Apologies, Sohaib; should be Joe 90 i addressed.

[joe90]

Where Eagles Dare -

Not only do you nihilistic Murdoch-Bush type western Jihadis know nothing about Islam and the great and many wonderful cultures and People of West Asia and South-West Asia, but you know nothing about the culture which you claim as your 'own' as well - the one you are so eager to defend from 'outsiders'.

Lets face it how many of your forefathers fought for Britain in the last two world wars.

- As these 'forefathers' didn't start either war, then why should they be held accountable for not fighting in it?

- As these wars were mostly internal western affairs with Japan thrown in in WWII, what had they to do with anyone else in wider world outside?

- If westerners want to murder each other in huge periodic bloodbaths, what buisness is it of anybody else in the world?

- And when are you westerners going to apolgise for murdering each other?

Anyway back to the real world -

WWI British Imperial Islamic contingents fighting against the Hun -
Well, as evidence, there's a very famous film made about this by David Lean called 'Lawrence of Arabia' starring Peter O'Toole in the title role. You may remember, the Arab contigents fought for the Allies against the Ottoman Turks and beat the Ottoman Turkish army quite handsomely.

The Arab reward, of course, was to be stabbed in the back by the British government at the post-WWI peace conferences, especially noteworthy in this regard is 'The Balfour Decleration' - one of the most notorious and infamous diplomatic documents of the Twentieth Century. It would be difficult to underestimate the importance of this vile piece of paper.

British Imperial Army -

Here are some rough figures for the composition of the British Imperial Army in its most strategically sensitive overseas area viz India (before partition with Pakistan just in case you know nothing about world history) -
1914 -
British imperial Indian Army = 160,000
British Army in India = 75,000

1921 -
British imperial Indian Army = 190,000
British Army in India = 60,000

Ref : Field Marshal Lord Carver -'Britian's Army in the 20th Century' (1998, London) p 59 , p 135

Here is wikipedia info (for what it's worth) where you will find a handsome image of Muslim soldier of the British Army
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Indian_Army>British Indian Army

British Imperial Indian Contigents were the largest volunteer contingent during WWII, and here is where you will read about its Muslim component -
http://defencejournal.com/sept99/martial-races.htm>The Role of Muslims Martial Races of Todays Pakistan in British-Indian Army in World War-II
Brig (Retd) NOOR A HUSAIN

When are you wetsern christianist Jihadi Bush-Murdoch-Blair nihilist extermists going to thank your fellow Muslim sisters and brothers for their great sacrifices, in the service of the West, during WWI and WWII?

By the way Where Eagles Dare -
Why should people forced to live under an alien imperial foreign regime, fight for their occupiers rather than against them?
I only ask, as you seem to be one of these people who claims to support freedom (from tyranny) and democracy.

Also, you'll notice WED,
that when Islamic folk fight for Britian there doesn't seem to be a problem about 'islamic fundmentalism' - indeed, only recently the CIA started, supported and funded the anti-Soviet Afghan Mujahadeen who later morphed into Al Quaeda and attacked America -
- when is the American Government going to tell the truth to its own People and apologise for its support of terrorism and for putting us all in danger?

Thersites asks -
What exactly does Dr Ameir Al-Mukhtar object to?
Read the article and you'll find out if he, or anybody else, is objecting to the police doing their job.
As far as I can see, he isn't objecting to anything except the effects of terrorism on the lives of ordinary law-abiding decent people - or am I missing something?.

[joe90]

By the Where Eagles Dare,
I'm curious to know when you are going to sign up andenlist in Prez Bush's 'Global War on Terror'?

I know for a fact both the US and the UK military are screaming out for new recruits, so when are you going to do yopur duty by your country?

Or are you just a big-mouthed racist coward, who can only cast apersions on people who have made the ultimate sacrifice for King and Empire - dragging the name of British Army soldiers (whose names will never be forgotten) through the mud of your little racist Murdoch sewer!

And to think,
British troops are paying the ultimate sacrifice for racists and liars like you, Blair and Murdoch!

You make me sick!

[Where eagles Dare]

Joe90 I have done my Bit 12 years in the British Army was in first Gulf war and 2 and a half years in Ireland,
My father fought in the Second World War both my grandfathers in the First. All 5 of my Uncles fought in the Second World War. You are the brave one calling someone a coward when not face to face with them
Also Thersites, was it not Hitler that had the Muslim SS regiments. I am not Racist but just reacting to what’s happening in this day and age, but thanks for the cut and paste history lesson, my daughter could do that, which leads me on to why I am deeply unwary about the spread of Islam My children, Muslims have not exactly covered them selves with glory across the world wherever they have settled, a Muslim society is not what I want for my British children. I agree that the British Government has not exactly covered its self with glory, looks at today’s Numpties, but its what’s happening in my own country that my Forefathers fought for, that worries me, the here and now. Pps You were fighting for your own freedom in the world wars as well as the British.

[joe90]

WED
you claim to have spent all that time in the British Army but yet, by your own admission, you nothing about its history and what it was fighting for down the years?
How odd!

WED says -
Its about time you woke up to the fact we dont trust you and we would be happier if you left OUR country

...take your barbaric religion and leave.

Barbaric backward and alien to OUR nation. Please go

WED here seems to be assuming they know what our way of life is all about, and yet WED doesn't even know anything about the history of the British Army, which they claim to have spent so much time in in serving - I can only conclude they know as much about our way of life as they do about the British Army

WED alo seems to be taking it upon themselves, unilaterally, to act as the spokesperson for the views of others - yet I don't know where they get this thoroughly un-British arrogance from. What gives WED the right to speak for others? They certainly don't speak for me, or anybody I know, so I've no idea where they get this un-democratic un-British authority from.

WED has been democratically elected by no one so they must be assuming a Hitlerian-like dictatorial responsibility for shouting their ignorant mouth off in public - again, another quite un-British attitude of WED.

WED is nothing if not an ignorant boor and thoroughly un-British - un-Britishness is something he is accusing his victims of which only leads me to conclude that if WED is serious about what he says then it's him that should be getting out of Britian, not his innocent victims.

Hitler also had his British supporters I seem to remember - indeed, wasn't it The Daily Mail, along with the rest of the British Establishment, who were among the Fuhrer's most avid supporters and admirers, that is, before he started attacking their interests?

[Where eagles Dare]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JtNAcCXYK6M

[Rob]

WED - I know the general rule is "don't feed the trolls" but as Joe90 has already encouraged you...

"Maybe its because when a Muslim starts praying in public he usually ends up ramming planes into the side of buildings. "

The only Muslims who have done that so far didn't start by praying in public, they started by pulling bloody great knives out of their luggage. Slight difference there.

I think a Muslim free airline would be a real money maker.

From whom? You and both your BNP pals? The rest of us will happliy keep flying, not just alongside Muslims, but in planes owned, operated and flown by Muslims. A fascist-free airline, now THAT might make money.

"Its about time you woke up to the fact we dont trust you and we would be happier if you left OUR country."

Just what I would say to you, WED. We don't want you; you're nothing to do with the Britain my father fought for. Please go away to Zimbabwe or somewhere where the government is more to your taste.

Barbaric backward and alien to OUR nation. Please go. And take your BNP mates with you.

[joe90]

WED
for someone who seems to be alleging, wholesale, that Muslims are nazis, you are a typical product of nazi ideology yourself. Now you're just reduced to posting video cartoons that claim to be history (more like, hilarious) - Josef Goebbels would be impressed. You don't even know you are a nazi.

Faulty Reasoning -
- however WED, your little rubbish YouTube video seems to be implying that, as the Nazis recruited some Muslims (a tiny amount, mostly from the Balkans and only for a few years) then the British Imperial Army are also Nazis as well. This is nonsense reasoning. The British Imperial Army were recruiting Muslims into its ranks long before Hitler was even born. How dare you imply the British Army is a nazi outfit just beacuse it recruits Muslims!

Because the Grand Mufti, and a few other Muslims sided with Hitler for a short period of time after they were betrayed by the British, then that means that all Muslims are Nazis! Well, far more Muslims, for a far greater length of time, served in Britian's Imperial Armed Services.

Again, using the same standards of reasoning and proof, this time 'guilt by association', here is a nazi of today who collaborated with the Hitler on the Euphrates as featured in WED's YouTube cartoon -
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WJUmhtmKttM>Donald Rumsfeld Shaking Hands with Saddam Hussein

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Some Questions for WED -
What do you think about Vichy Syria's support and collaboration with Hitler and the Nazis?

And what do you think about Zionist collaboration with the Nazis, especially with Adolf Eichmann, featured in your YouTube joke-version of history?

What about all that loyal service to the British Empire by Arab Muslims during WWI, and then them getting kicked in the teeth by the British Establishment - do you think this had any bearing on the good old Grand Mufti's alliance with the Wermacht, or do you think he was just a born Nazi-lover, just like the British press and the British aristocratic establishment at the time?

And what do you think about The Grand Mufti's happy retirement in Lebanon, from where the Israeli government never bothered to try to kidnap him and put him on trial (as they did with Eichmann way over in the Brazilian jungle) for this supposed genocide which your crappy little YouTube video alleges?

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British Nazis -

Because of the supposed crime of an individual, or group of individuals, who happened to be Muslim, then all Muslims must be guilty! This is pure Nazi ideology. Again, WED you seem to be the ardent Nazi-lover, just like your pre-WWII British Establishment pals, who were in love with Hitler and the Nazis. Blame your victims WED - this is an old nazi trick.

Of course, how about Nazified representatives of the British Establishment such as the Mitford Sisters, Oswald Mosley, William Joyce Lord aka Haw-haw etc. Does this mean all British folk, of whatever persuasion, are Nazis just because of the crimes of these few?

At Amazon UK you can purchase -
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Hurrah-Blackshirts-Fascists-Fascism-Britain/dp/1844130878/ref=sr_1_1/203-5099758-2116749?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1184584417&sr=1-1>Hurrah for the Blackshirts!: Fascists and Fascism in Britain Between the Wars

Here is wikipedia, for what its worth, on the BUF-
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Union_of_Fascists>British Union of Fascists

The Daily Mail headline 1936 Hoorah for the Blackshirts' and Oswald Mosoley was described as the most perfect human being in history -
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daily_Mail#Support_for_Nazism_and_Fascism>Support for Nazism and Fascism

One of my all time favourite photographs is the England football team giving Hitler the 'German salute' before an international game against Germany in the Berlin - if you know where I can find this image, I'd be obliged WED.

And of course,
it was the British government's discredited policy of 'appeasement' which led to the rise of Hitler and caused WWII - and not Hitler's grand alliance with the Grand Mufti, and a few Muslim blokes from the Balkans.

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I could go on but I would be interested in some answers from WED instead of merely being subjected to a Goebbels-style YouTube video, which I find quite an insult to the memories of the victims of the Nazis.

Not only does WED denegrate Muslim soldiery in the service of the British Army down the years, but also uses the vicims of the Nazis for propaganda purposes, which has been lifetd straight out of Goebbels guide book on the subject!

[BriW]

I think if the poor guy was aware he was going to stoke up all this hoo haa about Hitler and British Empire and all the other drivel getting posted here he would have went to Saltcoats for his holidays...............as it is maybe he'll just get a later flight next time.