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29 October 2006

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Ted

I'm afraid Donald Findlay is correct. Rule of law trumps cultural and religious sensitivities in any society that claims to be civilized. Being a model citizen, I've never been required to attend a court but I don't believe British courts open on Christmas Day so an RC wouldn't be called on such a day so I think your comment is wrong. When the court is in session then its word is law - not the personal predilections of individuals.

Martin

Osama,

Which lawyers have you spoken to?

Although I'm well past my sell by date on Scots Law, I might know some of them.

Osama

"Rule of law trumps cultural and religious sensitivities."

The judges spoke on this matter, and were relaxed about the Muslims in question celebrating Eid. What rule of law are you following Ted?

Ted

"The judges spoke on this matter, and were relaxed about the Muslims in question celebrating Eid. What rule of law are you following Ted?"

What did the judges say on the matter? From the article you linked to, it seems, in both cases, the witnesses and the accused just never bothered turning up - they didn't exactly seek the permission of the court in either instance.

The judges should have insisted that all were called to court and the fact they didn't undermines their own authority, the authority of the court and the rule of law in Britain. Sorry, but it does, Osama. Still, I'm convinced there will no unintended consequences over this 'relaxed' ruling.

Ted

Osama, is your position that this is an unfair portrayal of Muslims as being excused a court appearance for such a trivial matter as it is not exclusive to Muslims (other religions having similarly benefitted) and therefore its reportage is simply hysteria about the Muslim 'bogeyman'?

Or do you generally approve of people being allowed to dicate to courts when they will appear, witness and accused alike, as permitted by their social diaries vis-a-vis religious festivals?

Osama

LOL @ social diaries.

Ted, there are serious rules and sanctions about people not turning up at trials. Donald Findlay would have been far more apoplectic if that had been the case.

Martin

OIsama,

The nearest analogy would be to a Roman Catholic holiday of obligation; and I very much doubt whether the obligation to attend Mass on those days would constitute grounds for non-appearance.

Ted

"Ted, there are serious rules and sanctions about people not turning up at trials."

Indeed. Which is why I was surprised this was dealt with in such a seemingly flippant, off-hand way.

"Donald Findlay would have been far more apoplectic if that had been the case."

He seemed rather annoyed, though. Shame to call him bigoted too. Findlay has defended some of the RC underclass, you know.

BTW, speaking of Findlay, do you know of a protest against the Maccabi Haifa team at Ibrox Stadium on Thursday? I heard a rumour about it.

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