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06 June 2006

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Abu Abdur Rahman

Assalamo 'alaikum Osama

I agree akhee that John Ware may have an agenda, and he certainly does not go out of his way to present 'both sides' to the story.

However, on the specific issue of the MCB, it is difficult to disagree with the general thrust of the argument that he made, is there? The MCB should get out of the phoney charade where they take pride in being Blair's in-house Muslims and the Establishment gets to establish its 'pro-Islam' credentials. At a more general level, I am not happy with their pretence of being 'moderate' - IMHO, there are no 'moderate' Muslims, just Muslims who practise their deen and those who ignore it.

Sohaib

But that wasn't the thrust of Ware's argument against the MCB at all. I think you're getting him mixed up with Yvonne Ridley.

Abu Abdur Rahman

But that wasn't the thrust of Ware's argument against the MCB at all.

I agree, sorry for not clarifying that - but then Ware's main argument, that MCB may not be as liberal and as moderate as they claim to be, is not entirely unfounded either, is it?

My suggestion was that the MCB gentlemen should not claim to be moderate / liberal / democratic etc in the first place.

Sohaib

Do the MCB use all of those descriptors for themselves? If so, each should be taken in its context before one criticises. I don't see any of those terms as inherently wrong for a Muslim organisation - in fact, quite the opposite. The whole problem is that their meaning is disagreed upon so vastly and dramatically by the various factions in these debates.

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