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09 May 2006

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cdnmuslim

But the problem is that "fanatical" ideas are very subjective. I mean, for most Palestinians, supporting the existence of "Israel" is a fanatical idea, whereas this is mainstream for Zionists and their supporters.

naveen

Jews are western people and their culture together with Christianity founded the basis of western civilisation. Hence Jews and Christians need to understand their own history, civilisation and culture. Moslems are not part of the West and if they want to live in the West must understand and become part of the West. That means that Moslems should study in Christian or Jewish schools. Those who want to live in Islamic culture are free to leave and live in Islamic countries. If Moslems don't want to be part of the west (and they are not anyway)they should be removed from the country as their continued presence poses a threat to the native Jews and Christians. The theology and doctrine of Islam have a hostile ideology to the West.

Hence there should be no Moslem schools in the West.

cdnmuslim

Naveen,
Those are the most ignorant comments I have ever heard. Let me ask you this: where is this East/West divide? Are you aware the both Judaism and Christianity originated in the Middle East? lol your comments are truly amusing.
Have you evern in your life spoken to a Muslim? Have you even read anything written by a Muslim?
I leave you with the first message that came down to the Prophet Mohammad PBUH: "READ!"

naveen

The last commentator's comments are what is ignorant and it would appear that he has a lot of reading to do on the West. Judeiam and Christianity started in Israel and spread throughout the Roman Empire in Europe. The latter colonies of North America and Aus/NZ were founded later but based upon Christianity. The West has a distinct Christian culture upon which the civilisation is based. Islam is not and has never been part of the West. Islam is Asian and entirely alien to the West. Go and read some history.....

George Carty

If Judaism is closer to Christianity than it is to Islam, why did pre-Englightenment Christendom usually treat its Jews worse than the Islamic world treated its dhimmis (Jewish and Christian)? And wasn't one of the reasons why Spain expelled its Jews fear that they would collaborate with any attempted Muslim "Re-reconquista"?

cdnmuslim

hahaha "Christianity and Judaism started in Israel". What is your basis for this? Prophet Abraham, the father of the Abrahamic religions was from Iraq (the city of Ur) Where was this Israel that you speak of? Moses was from modern day Egypt. Keep on believing your own lies, they just MIGHT come true one day.

Sohaib

Also, Naveen, I take it you wouldn't tell Jews who want to study in a Jewish school to leave and go to Israel. No, because they are fully part of the West. So why does Israel exist? (I mean as a post-1948 declared state.)

naveen

Pre- enlightenment Europe did not treat its Jews worse than the Islamic world treated dhimmis. In fact the Islamic world's treatment of its dhimmis has been attrocious. Europe has never enforced taxes on jews. The re conquista was the SPANISH CATHOLIC RECONQUEST OF SPAIN - not the other way round. Ferdinand and Isabella forced ALL non Christians out of Spain and that included Jews and Moslems as they are both non Christain. The Jews and Moslems have never been friends.

Sohaib

So where did the Jews go then?

cdnmuslim

Naveen, you contradict yoruself again.
See this link:
http://www.jews-for-allah.org/history-of-love/

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