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Thanks for the clarifications on this story. Sarwar has behaved disgracefully once again. And as for Fr. Gannon labelling the parents as "extremists", why didn't he just go ahead and say "terrorists"? Same effect.

Comment I received via email that needs sharing:

"I can only share my experience as someone who was educated at a Catholic school in Jerusalem from 1966 to 1980. I attended a Frensh school called College De Frere De Lasall, a branch of the Fransiscan fathers. This school was set up as a charity in France by a wealthy man to look after poor Frensh kids and soon had branches all over the world.The level of education was the best you can get anywhere in the world. With such reputation the demand on the school meant they could not meet the running cost. Their solution was to allow wealthy kids of well off families to study at the schools and pay fees that subsidised the cost of educating the poor ones. This programme also allowed paying Muslim kids to study at the school.

"The experience I had in tolerence of others is priceless. When it came to worship the Christians had their own Chapel to pray and take Mass but we were never asked or made to attend. On the contrary while the Christians were doing their own religious education, the school provided the Muslim pupils with excellent Muslim teachers to provide Islamic education.

"As a result of this model all pupils learned to respect the others while getting their needs met. I am sure that had we been forced to join our Christian peers in their religious education we would have grown to resent their religion and the benefit of tolerence would have been lost."

I note Cpouncillor Ahmed has stated publicly that there was in fact a deliberate and sustained disruption of the mass by Muslim parent protestors last week. Please refer to the Scottish catholic Observer

No idea where one can pick up a copy of the Catholic Observer. I'd be interested to see what Cllr Ahmad was quoted as saying though, especially as the Daily Record published a letter from him last week rubbishing the idea of him leading a protest, or indeed that there was a protest at all.

Have come late to this discussion.

A few days back I saw a news report on SKY about this incident. As a Catholic, I would be deeply offended if I thought that the actions of the parents were designed to interupt worship.

Having now seen the report, I have come to the conclusion that the actions of a few, did cause offence to the local Catholic community.

And to me it seems that an "issue" is being created to bring attention to the main issue, which is government funded schools for the Muslim community. That those involved chose to "use" a time of worship to give this issue greater publicity is cynical, and without principle. (That the school and it's time of worship is being used to test the water so to speak.)

If I am correct, I believe that you were one of the people interviewed for the report. It may be that your responses were edited; however, you seemed to dismiss the concerns of the Catholic community, by the tone of what you said and your demeanour. I am suprised.

Ainelivia, I was quoted on that report saying that I know of no protest. My exact words were "I know the parents involved [in asking for the kids to be exempted from mass, according to Catholic and local authority guidelines] and they have too much respect for the Catholic faith to be playing games with their rituals".

The leader of this group of parents does not sit down before the Catholic priest such is his respect. It is for this reason I cannot believe reports of a protest. I've asked for evidence - names of parents involved, how they disrupted the mass etc but I have received no response. Anyone distrupting the mass should be taken to task, make no mistake about it.

Without any evidence however, I can only assume this was a smokescreeen created by the school to draw attention from the head teacher's mismanagement of the situation for well over a year. It should not have come to this.

Only knowing what I have heard from TV reports, and knowing that there is always a journalistic bias and agenda, there is not much more I could say of details and specifics.

But to be as blunt as I can, you are right it should not have come to this. However what worries me is how things flame up because one hot head gets it into his (and it usually is a he) head that he/his/ whatever is being attacked; the response now inflames the so-called attackers and we have in return a response from the other side now entrenched. Where do they go from there?

Sectarianism is only too well entrenched among some Catholic and Protestant communities; not to mention shades of Methodist, Baptist, Presybterian, and god knows what else. OS, we just don't need any more. Can we not temper needs with a little understanding?

We Celts (Irish, Scots, Welsh) are more Latin in our response than the English. Religion is often more important than nationality or race, and often so intertwined with a persons politics and attitudes. But then being a Scot yourself you'd know this only too well. Thanks for responding. AL

Although it is a Catholic school and if the parents don't want their children to attend the Mass they shouldn't send their kids there, there is a non-denom school just up the road if their not happy with the catholic one

Rory, Glasgow City Council guidelines and those of the Catholic Church themselves say that no child should be forced to take part in rituals.

State Funded Muslim Schools

British schooling has been mis-educating and de-educating Muslim children for the last 50 years and for the first time the Muslim leadership openly declared that British school is a home of institutional racism where there is no place for foreign culture and languages. Institutional racism is depriving Muslim children of the chance to go to their own faith schools. It leads LEAs to reject or delay approval of Muslim schools. Policy makers like Mr. Graham Lane and others like him do not want to see even a single Muslim school in the United Kingdom. The British teachers have no respect for Islamic faith and Muslim community. Western education system can easily deprogram Muslim children and force them to adopt un-Islamic values. Let the Muslim parents decides how and where to educate their children. According to MORI social research institute on behalf of Bristol LEA, nine out of ten Muslim parents agreed with the model of an Islamic secondary school set up within the state system. I rejected British schooling for Muslim children in the early 70s.

A child who has English as a second language is seen as having a special need – not as having a skill to be lauded from the rooftops. Bilingual children think in different way. Language has a profound effect in shaping the ways people think and act. Certain concepts are embedded in words that do not translate. There are repertoires of phrases which exist in Arabic or Urdu because there is no English equivalent. State schools are slaughter houses and are not suitable for bilingual Muslim children. Muslim children in the UK may lose out when they join reception classes because the school’s values and language reflect those of the dominant native culture, rather than those of their home. Almost all recent research literature agrees that if you want children whose home language is not English to excel in English –medium schools, it is important to nurture and acknowledge that first language along side their English development. Cultivating bilingualism could and should promote pupil’s linguistic development. Muslim children need bilingual Muslim teachers as role models.

Taxpayers’ money spent on schools should be handed to parents as vouchers to be used for their children’s education as they wished. Funds may be given to parents to set up their own schools. Lady Uddin argues strongly for the benefits of faith-based schooling, rejecting claims made in reports on the 2001 riots in Oldham, Burnley and Bradford that polarised schooling contributed to community division. Culturally separate groups, communities and institutions do not have to be the causes of social instability. There are hundreds of state schools where Muslim pupils are in majority, all such schools may be designated as Muslim community schools to be managed and controlled by Muslim Educational Trust and Charities.
Iftikhar Ahmad
www.londonschoolofislamics.org.uk

Just what Scotland needs - more kids segregated on the grounds of religion. Yeah, that'll bring everyone together. It's bad eough Catholic bigots insisting on such pathetic separation without Muslim bigots joining them. Have a word with yourselves.

As-Salaamu 'alaikum,

Let me get this straight: the school was holding a whole-school mass when 7% or 9% of the school's pupils are Catholic - that is, for 25 or 32 children out of 350? And they refuse to make alternative arrangements for the non-Catholic *majority*?

That is plain stupid, and reflects only bigotry. There clearly are not enough Catholics in this district to merit a Catholic school anymore, so the school should be declassified. This "just send your kids to the school up the road" response is not relevant, because it could well be full (or a dump full of kids the Catholic school won't take).

Regarding the De Lasall schools your emailer mentioned, Osama: I've met a brother from Sri Lanka who was educated in a Catholic school there, and he had a similar story to tell. I'm not sure if it was the same organisation and order or another, though.

Update on the situation - the school buckled to pressure after the news reports and miraculously managed to find someone to look after the kids who didn't want to take part in mass.

We are not in the place yet that Catholic schools in Palestine or Sri Lanka are in as described above. Muslims at St Albert's still need to opt-out of mass which is clearly a problem in a recent immigrant community who are not the best at expressing their rights.

To reiterate, 20 years ago at St Albert's, Muslims carried on with classes while the 10% of Catholics were taken out for Mass. The school has managed somehow to go downhill under the current head teacher who engineered this whole mess.

Assalamo 'alaikum

Yusuf & Osama - the Catholic schools in Occupied Palestine and Sri Lanka may well be exemplars of tolerance - I do not know. However, my understanding of Christian schools in South Asia is quite different - it is a fact that Christian missionary organisations run numerous schools in poor or rural areas of non-Christian countries with the explicit aim of teaching the non-Christian locals about Christianity - they may also impart decent education at little or no cost to the parents, and may even provide a free school meal, which on its own is sometimes enough to attract a lot of interest - however, their main objective remains proselytising. The sad thing is that this continues to happen in Pakistan, a Muslim country, nearly 60 years after the colonials left.

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